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01/10/03
Paint her up in Chiaroscuro with white as the top layer and you might get the Witch Queen from Narnia... -Jakar Nilson |
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01/10/03
Does anyone know how someone in the US can get their hands on some of these mins? -Ghost
About scale: they are larger than GW, I think about the same size as Rackham but more bulky. Or maybe a little bigger, the base are 2,5cm large, so you can estimate the figures. I don't have either those figs nor Rackham figs at home to make a proper comparison but will be at a show sunday, I'll look better. Sometimes they say their figures are 35mm scale, other that they are 28mm but that their average human are 8 feet tall.... -Sylvain
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03/10/03
Anyhow they are the only manufacturer to fill the void for naked athenian hoplites with affro hair. can you dig it?? -Si2
She said, "Well, look at them. They're not very well endowed. I suppose the sculptors must use themselves for a model." I passed this on to Dave at EVM (in Notts), who carries BTD at shows. He laughed, and suggested it was probably just that all the sculptors are in the chilly North. -aeurtis
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04/10/03
News and pics arrived today of Tom Meier's new wood elves and they are gems. "Higher resolution version images will be posted to the website in about a week or so." Sneak peeks are of a spearman wearing leaf-shaped scale mail and a wonderful, clean-limbed archer. Faces are superb, scale is 30mm from soles of feet to top of head. -Thoronadan
'oh..look it has photos' 'Oh damn, they're all so dark you can't make any details out' That's almost worse than no photos at all!!! Does anybody know how these figures relate to Reapers DHL range in terms of size, etc.? -DemonEtrigan
More like old ral partha and grenadier stuff AFAIK.
"My ideal figures would be as close to true scale and proportion as feasible given the size and materials used. I think it is even more important to make fantasy figures as ‘true’ as possible because the subject matter is bizarre and imaginary, without the grounding in reality they too easily become silly... Traditional representations of elves give them pointy ears to one degree or another (some are very large) and I go along with this as part of the ‘feral’ look which suggests elves’ closeness to nature. Big eyes, lissome posture and natural elements in dress and symbols (for wood elves leaf motifs, vines, trees et.) are other ideas I usually incorporate in elves for the same effect. "...Otherworldliness I try to suggest by odd clothing, asymmetries and peculiar postures and in the face by a simplified, idealized shape, I see elves as sort of halfway between angels and men and thus closer to an ideal, platonic form. "For a magical touch I use unusual symbols and strange decoration. ...After assembling my design ideas I try to fit them together in a way that makes as much ‘sense’ as possible. I think it’s important for fantasy to have a rational framework to hang the imaginary elements on, without this there is no basis for the contrasts which make fantasy striking and wonder-full. Fantasy should be an alternate reality founded on different premises, like non Euclidean geometry. "...I’ve set myself a schedule of two elves a week (which I’ve stuck to so far) with any luck we’ll have the first release in December." -Tom Meier (Thunderbolt Mountain)
I think I'll get a few of these to paint up as display pieces rather than thinking about armies. I'll look forward to seeing the upcoming figures int he range. -SteveB
Sheesch, What a tough crowd! My kinda people. If I may be allowed to speak in my own defense, please remember I’m one of the people who defined what elf figures look like. When I started making elves in 1974 there weren’t very many on the market (Minifigs had some and perhaps Heritage but that was all) There wasn’t even much in the way of illustration except fairy-type elves and pictures from ‘Midsummer Night’s Dream’. A lot of the ideas I introduced at that time have been used so often as to be nearly hackneyed, like a song covered by a host of different bands. You say retro, I say classic, and as fine tuned as I can manage. I am going to innovate in this line, though not drastically, but you won’t see much of it in these pictures which are ‘bog-standard elves’. I think just as in a good film you shouldn’t make everything too exciting, something has to give dramatic contrast. These figures were designed to be part of units, not stand-alone heroes. Also Wood Elves are the most ‘ordinary’ elves. This is a taste of the cake, you haven’t seen the icing yet. I do like people who are hard to please though. Oh and sorry about the verbose notes on the elves but it wasn’t meant to be posted to a discussion board. -TMeier
http://www.frothersunite.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=879
"Finally... there shouldn't be too much variation in rank-and-file poses, since they should seem to possess discipline beyond the ken of mortal men." I agree with the premise, but my idea is rank and file is something humans do to buck up their courage, truly elite troops like the Jannissaries for instance, disdain to march in step. The extreme long face is part of the cartoonishness I dislike as are ridiculous helmets and armour. The long face and especially the high nose are elements I first used in elf figures to express nobility, an aristocratic look but you can go too far. I fear I probably started the greco-roman influence, it was inadvertent as I’ve always thought elves should have more of a renaissance Italian meets Celtic crossed with art nouveau look. I made several figures with barbutes, an Italian helmet which resembles a pointy topped ancient Greek Corinthian helm and things seem to have gone from there. We’ll see what you think of the heroes and nobles, the great thing about fantasy is the scope it allows for expression. The reason I sent out the pictures is to give people an idea of what they’re definitely not going to see, which is a cartoony style or ridiculous unworkable extreme clothing and armour. -TMeier
But I know I'm looking forward to them. As a sculptor I've really gotten a lot from seeing your recent sculpts for Darksword and now your elves. As a painter I'm more interested in the elves. The Darksword figures felt a bit too much like an exercise in sculpting rather than figures to paint. These elves exhibit the same fineness but with more restraint. Can't wait to see where you go with them. -SteveB and [here] |
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07/10/03
I guess it's a combination of old fashioned modesty and not wanting to abuse the privilege of being a member or something like that. Must be that we're a bit quirky. -Ian Newbold
I have the deepest respect for your innate modesty and will not hold it against you. We would however be deeply honoured if you would consider submitting your stuff to us as well, or, if that will alleviate your conscience, by sending it to a member of the Marbles General Staff. Sincere regards etc...etc..
Hmm, maybe DD should include them in the Lizardman showcase too?
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07/10/03
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07/10/03
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09/10/03
It is also possible to get a very diverse range of polearms from Corvus Belli, including a very fine halberd (I've got a hundred coming to replace my Old Glory and Foundry halberds, which I find too gross in their dimensions). My feeling is that polearmed units of medieval footmen would tend to have a diversity of weapon heads. I do like the bills though. Very nice. (Oops, apparently they're calling them a voulage). -okheir
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09/10/03
Then there's the "Samurai girl" ("naked Asian chick w/sword" is more like it). -Mancha
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09/10/03
He's about 30mm, fimo/sculpey mix with a few green bits -waxfive
much thanks sihook as an interesting sub note this is one of the figures that i sent off to I-Kore, they said thanks but no.
Lovely orc face, very nice, and an unusually smart set of armour. I like it.
I think that some rivets on the armour pieces would make them more believable, but that's really the only flaw I can find (Oh, and just as a side note, it would perhaps be interresting for you to try and make armours less GW-inspired, it would give more character to your minis ). It's the first real alternative to Nelson's orcs I have seen in all those years, that's really good work lad, have you found someone to put it in production? -LFant
It may yet see the light of day as a production figure though
if it does then i'm sure it will end up on here. (it was only blood bowl how was i to know what it would lead too, i was young my heart was an open book, i used to say ......... )
I've seen the other mini wax did for them (in traditional greenstuff, which unfortunately will never see production) and I was very impressed. He's REAL good when he wants to...
I think that I would simply put it this way: If the next ones are as good, this range will become really interresting...
Enough ego wanking, wax: make the range!
Or have him wear a chain/necklace thing. Right now its too plain and would not paint up well. And like they said, nice face.
Even so, if you make a regiment of these, I'll buy 'em before you can blink! -Grom
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09/10/03
Those Brood Puds could make some fine alternative Alien face-huggers.
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09/10/03
http://www.thelondonwarroom.com/Resin%20Products%20Page%201.htm Just scroll down the lists if you may, Sah, as there are some things of certain interests... Steam Tractors to pull around the regimental battery - would relieve the pressure off that one stallion from Balaclava... and although this... tripod might cause many painful memories from the events of last year, what better way to remember our fallen comrades than to do like Prometheus and steal the sacred tool from the gods? What be the thoughts, Sir?
That steam tractor might be an interesting addition to my Fantasy Wild West stuff. Put some piece artillery on there and fill the cart with Union or Confederate soldiers and you'd have an interesting warwagon.
Besides, I prefer the "ungodly" Grant/Lee to the Tiger...
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09/10/03
And how come I can only get the characters in my region?
*Reaper started small, but things have had a size creep, like the dwarves...
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09/10/03
http://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/index.php?cPath=21 I like the way the right head seems to have taken a bit of damage, perhaps from a few sideways headbutts by the left head! -Bloodfinger
Now, is the Coolminiornot shop becoming something of an essential visit for frothers? Anyone know how much they plan to expand it?
As for the axe, I agree. It needs to be twisted forward a little for a natural angle but I left it flat for ease of casting. Really not a problem to bend it a little at the wrist. -SteveB
(I'm not trying to criticise the figures, especially not the elfstress, just work out what's creating these reactions).
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09/10/03
http://www.reapermini.com/fantasy/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=rokugan Looking forward NEW stuff from Reaper for this line. -Ghost
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10/10/03
they look a bit mankey at the moment cos they're a mash of kit bits, still i would'nt want to produce that armour 24 times... -PeteB
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10/10/03
http://www.forgeofsouls.com/ws1/index.html Pretty good I think...
Having said that, platform shoes too? Hmm. I might go out on a limb and say that the face is OK too, at least it should paint up pretty well. Anyway, big boobies are out, why not a more range of face shapes?
at least has a hope to wield. The breasts ... geez, sculptors, just stop. The heels. Again, just stop. This could've been a cool character mini. But, like the near-naked samurai, it just feels cheap. -MiniaturesAtlas
But it doesn't matter anyway. I've tried to order from them before and the only shipping option was UPS - and there is no way in HELL that I am accepting a shipment from UPS. Those bastards tend to add an additional 40% onto the cost after all the brokerages fees, service charges and taxes on top of taxes! I won't deal with UPS nor any company that insists on using them! -frotherGuest |
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10/10/03
The one at the bottom is a limited edition Dark-Age mini, only 555, limited to Germany (but they will sell to people outside Germany). I like the "Death and the Maiden" figure, although there's no reason why she couldn't at least have a nightgown.
I like the lizard minis. They're going on my "to buy" list. -MiniaturesAtlas
The Death with Maiden has a little problem: where's the two other ages of (wo)man? If you've seen the medieval miniatures (small paintings, naff!), then you'll understand...
Anyway, you can always file the nipples off the dead woman and greenstuff a gown...
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10/10/03
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12/10/03
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12/10/03
The proportions seem to be off from a miniature-collecting point of view, but perfectly in scale with the artistic style of the period...
Its a letdown from Drew Williams I have to say. Anyway, If they are 20mm figs what are we interested for?
-MiniaturesAtlas
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13/10/03
Reminds me of kids tv (when i was a kid, not the stuff they have now ).
As far as the topic concerns, I think the dwarf is okay, but nothing special really, while the barbarian IS kind of crude...
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14/10/03
I'm showing this off to you guys a few days before I unveil her to the masses. I've been running the Female Miniature Painting Challenge for three years now and I'm about to start the fourth any day now. You can see what the past three have been like here: http://thewarp.net/war/believers/index.htm This year I wanted to do something special and so I commissioned our own Steve Buddle to sculpt a miniature for the event. I intend to sell her for a small sum, not with the intent of making money on her (or at least not a great deal of money), but rather just to celebrate the Challenge. The miniature itself is $4.50 per miniature, while P&H is $1.50. I will send up to three minis to any given address and the rate for 1 to 3 is still $1.50. I think Steve did a great job, but I'd love to hear what you think of her. Also, what do you think of what I intend to charge for her. I should point out that one needn't buy or paint this particular miniature in order the enter the Challenge. One may enter any female miniature one wishes. Thanks for your input -Mancha
Slot Based... D***
Anyway. Now for the scathing critique! SB has done a very nice job. However, I think the folds of jacket could stand to be more crisp and it could have done without the fur trim. The pose is as I said static and seems to limit conversion potential in a big way. Weapon or arm swaps are out of the question without grinding off the jacket entirely. I will wager that we will see many entries with added hair, but not much more putty work. A better pose might have been with the jacket slung over one shoulder and an arm extended to fire one of her pistols. Thanks for not putting a hat on her though.
As to arm swaps, I have always been first to urge Dominic to consider conversion potential when he's planned out the VIC minis. It's interesting that I should forget (or ignore) my own advice in planning my own mini. Also , while I agree that the figure is static, I actually really like it that way. I'd initially wanted a more dynamic pose (crossed-arm drawing of her pistols), but Steve pointed out some likely casting problems with what I'd envisioned. This was my back-up pose and, while not my initial choice, I still like it a lot. It seems like our contemporary miniatures, in reaction to the static poses of the 80s and 90s, have ALL become dynamic. I, on the other hand, have always liked what I will call "portrait poses", especially when applied to semi-historical minis like this one. I imagine her on the deck of a ship, or looking down haughtily on her enemies, or gazing down from the frame mounted on the wall. Anyway, thanks for your very complete critique. I hope that some of your fears have been rendered moot. -Mancha
I would ask would it not be possible to have the coat as a seperate bit which could be glued on if necessary? That way your miniature might actually satisfy that sort of critique. I am not a sculptor but it might be worth thinking about.
This character looks like sees roundly pissed off with someone and is about to kick their ass. He'd probably be better to do the dishes and stop whining. About the facial features what sort of ethnicity are we looking at here - her face is almost elven and yet the clothes and stance are almost black (if I am allowed to say that )?
My first thought was indeed that I'd add longer hair to her. Thank God for greenstuff. (funny, I seem to have a history of adding hair to Steve Buddle's minis) ;-).
She looks as if she is waiting for the approaching horde of henchmen to fully encircle her, head turned to one side so that she can watch her back, before she leaps into action, two guns blazing John woo style. Sort of calm before the storm, so to speak. Needs a pithy one liner to go with it. I like it!
Sulptors often tell their wives/partners that the stack of magazines under the bed is "reference material" i think steve actually means it ... my only concern is the quiff, very tank girl .
Dynamic poses are easy, you just put the arms and legs as far apart as possible. Creating a feeling of 'latent' energy, thats a bit harder in any medium. Well done that chap!
I'm rather pleased with how it turned out. I didn't set out with any ideas about her ethnicity. The face is quite elven I suppose but then my style seems to go in that direction of late. Then I don't think that this is a bad thing. The rather ambiguous quality of the face should lend itself to a lot of different painting possibilities. Must admit I'm starting to get bored of sculpting all these fantasy females. Gets tempting at times to go back to my roots and sculpt some historicals.
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16/10/03
http://www.creafigs.com/page.php?id=190
I hope the new pegasus knights are plastic, but what are the chances of that? BTW, M., I think they're indeed supposed to form regiments.Those grail pilgrims are interesting, but they reek of empire sigmarites and flagellants.
The mounted lord figure, that I like.
Very mixed bag there, some absolute rubbish, but at least the archers have more than two poses and are okay. Isn't Kislev out soon?
And axes (esp two handed ones) are very seldom seen in horseback. You are much more likely to see a mace or hammer if you are so inclined. The reason is that axes has a higher chance of getting stuck in you enemies' armour/bone and stuff which is a pain when you are on horseback. Oh, and it seems the horse is back to the old ones. Maybe the really mean looking one we saw a while ago is for some special character instead, made of metal and priced competitively (when compared to that chaos general)
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16/10/03
"Jarrkun, our first orc. Fujiko da Silva. It is said that she is the daughter or a Portuguese pirate and a gueisha... I hope you like them!" -Fernando
The woman....reminds me a bit of that irritating bugger a couple of Star Wars pictures ago. Was it called a Bza Yar or something?-okheir
The Portuguese pirate geisha offspring does look like exactly that. Who came up with that unusual (and slightly weird, but interesting) concept?
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19/10/03
http://home.knuut.de/HolgerSchmidt/newbold.htm
"AH! TIS GOOD TO BE DEAD!"
If that was the thought then the miniatures have been sculpted exactly as intended. Nice painting though. -Ugsome
The poses of all our figures are chosen to reflect my view of what the figures are most likely to be doing at key times on the battlefield (wargames table). For example, the Umangan High Command are meant to be stationed on a suitable hill directing the battle as it unfolds. They aren't meant to be manoeuvring or fighting. As an analogy I doubt whether Wellington was ever seen rearing his horse and waving a sabre around his head. Although he did have the odd close shave of course! -Ian Newbold
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19/10/03
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19/10/03
http://home.goulburn.net.au/~dcgavan/ancients/cacovenant.html
I'm sure you get the picture! -Mr Canuck
Gerry at Castaway says he is thinking of making an alternative set with Evil Nazis carrying the Ark. -Mexican Jack Squint
Apparently a gift from either Atlantians, Aliens or just Angels. Hmmm, with Rafm or Reaper angel support...
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20/10/03
http://theminiaturespage.com/news/?id=297324
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20/10/03
The whole style reminds me a bit of Enki Bilal, or maybe some of the Heavy Metal series from the 90s (Gypsy?). I can't say that I warm to it, though the minis are beautifully done. The only one here I'd be likely to buy is, ironically enough, the least well sculpted, the dandy highwaywoman. Her face isn't a patch on, er, the gal with the patch, but with a bit of green stuff to turn her tabard into a skirt, I could easily plonk her down in the eighteenth century.
And the figures...well, they're nicely sculpted and probably well made, but they're not my cup of tea. Which leaves me with the Krootesque figures should i ever play it.
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21/10/03
LimEd(250) btw.
From this angle, the face looks like it has a nice aggressive expression. The pose looks slightly awkward, but still well within the realm of acceptable. Overall, I really like this mini. -MiniaturesAtlas |
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21/10/03
Well, I thought he looked like PM when he wasn't being such a goof...
I could post some pics here if you like, but I don't want to appear to be too much of a shill. -fourcolorfigs
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22/10/03
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22/10/03
Same with the void news, quite deceiving minis. -LFant
The biker? She would be perfect for an EE Sisters of Battle website. D'oh. Forgot EE's policies on other manufacturers (there are other manufacturers?)...
It's ok. That's it, they're just ok. Unfortunately the charge almost the same as GW prices and regardless of the odd dodgy mini and the horrendous pricing scheme GW does produce some quality minis. I can't get the thought out of my head that I-Kore are GW-Lite. If I could I might even be selling the stuff, well most of it anyway (Especially the kilt wearers). |
22/10/03
Apparently, he hasn't. Guess you found it on the London Warroom site. Since you haven't yet, and I was aware of it, I call dibs on the new extra firearms. And the "vacuum mechanic"(?) ...
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23/10/03
I don't care much for the muscular elf barbarian and I sincerely hope he has secured permission to do an edition of Death Dealer. It would be a shame to get sued over such a nice figure.
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24/10/03
Besides, anyone else need magnifying glasses AND Photoshop to read the names of the new releases?
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24/10/03
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25/10/03
Too many figs out there that look like they'll snap in postage.-Artemis Black
Saw the picture and thought "Ahh... cloaker"... What a shame...-Brother Maynard
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24/10/03
Already seen some of them, but Haven't seen the Pythie d'Azël, or the Séides Formors stuff before. Damn, definitely liking the Formors.
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26/10/03
BG-ADV06 Evy the Archaeologist (pictured on right) These are being cast right now and will be available in about 10 days. I have announced this here first so please do not spill the beans as will be posting to the Gaslight group shortly. -BrigadeGames
The shadow warriors are cool but I think I would have been completely perplexed about them had I not seen League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Still, the GASLIGHT crowd should be very pleased with them. -Mancha
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26/10/03
http://www.gisby.org/hiadv/c21.jpg http://www.gisby.org/hiadv/c22.jpg As with nearly All Things Copplestone, I really like these. Does anyone know how they get these nice photos? Great detail without lots of shiny bits?-MiniaturesAtlas
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28/10/03
Contest: can you find the Xena lookalike in 10 seconds?
Probably all that yawing at sea...or something.
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There's no doubt about it that these are comedic, cartoonish miniatures, but I feel that way about most dwarves anyway. They're also relatively large. My dwarves would be almost as tall as a basic Foundry human standing next to them. They're well cast and generally satisfying miniatures. I recommend them to dwarf lovers everywhere. -Mancha |
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30/10/03
I'm not going to say GW's new Kislev releases have something to do with it, but I'm writing it anyway.
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31/10/03
Some of which are quite good, but not an improvement on the team they replace (I've said that somewhere before I think). I'm told that the new style helmets are due to difficulties they had with casting the old ones. The Workshop page has the Support team, some new Tribals and other assorted goodies... The psychologist with the baseball bat made me smile, and the physiotherapist is somewhat striking; it might be worth getting an injury for a bit of treatment from her.
But anyways... Darn. I might need some. Do I? Yes, yes, we must... We?! We never know when we might need some... We?! ...And then they shall know our wrath... Alright, I'm confused as H***...
I like the new gridiron trainers and the drummer for the tribals too. From memory the standard bearer looked better in the milliput stage though
I too would find myself with a regular groin strain if Sharon was my physiotherapist, but you seem to have forgotten that its an all female team... so you wold likely get referred to Sophie instead for 'percussive psychotherapy'....
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